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  1. cirdellin

    cirdellin Porn Star Banned!

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    Norma McCovey (Aka Jane Roe) who never even got an abortion said that it was the biggest mistake of her life to have allowed herself to have been a part of this legal action which created the precedent which led to the millions of abortions. Was she a traitor to feminists? What say you?
     
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  2. BigSuzyB

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    Shut up.
     
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      @BigSuzyB
      A powerful assertion! Would you like to express an actual opinion? Or do you simply wish to forcefully end this debate?
       
      cirdellin, May 17, 2020
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    2. Josef.K.
      And are you also going to lay your cards on the table?
       
      Josef.K., May 17, 2020
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  3. AyaLaRoux

    AyaLaRoux Porn Star

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    Fuck off.
     
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      Another powerful argument devoid of warrants supporting their position.

      Emotions are not arguments. Please try again!
       
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  4. cirdellin

    cirdellin Porn Star Banned!

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    By the way, I have been a firm supporter of Roe v Wade as it only allows abortions only in the first trimester as this gives women plenty of time to decide and also deals with the questions of rape and incest before the fetus is sentient enough to be aware of it’s existence.

    If we say that it’s a woman’s body and her right to decide after this, then we are saying that the other life she is carrying is only as valuable as the woman carrying it deems it to be.

    What is the real difference between an abortion carried out five minutes before or after before birth? Where is the line? Not legally but ethically?
     
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    1. Josef.K.
      It would seem that you've really not done proper research on this matter and you present a turgid mix of legal and claimed ethical choices.
      To cap it all you trot out the silly and patriarchal view of the birth of a baby as being a "Five Minute Job", viz:
      What is the real difference between an abortion carried out five minutes before or after before birth? Where is the line? Not legally but ethically?
       
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  5. AyaLaRoux

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      Legislate your wombs?
       
      Josef.K., May 17, 2020
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  6. cirdellin

    cirdellin Porn Star Banned!

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    Hey, here’s a crazy idea. How about a non emotional answer to my question?
     
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    2. dirtyjedi
      When you carry the child and feel it grow you get a say
       
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    3. cirdellin
      Yes and you get to kill it,.right?
       
      cirdellin, May 17, 2020
    4. AyaLaRoux
      A fetus is a fetus is a fetus.
       
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    5. dirtyjedi
      Only a cretin would take that stance
      Even as a joke that in poor taste,
      You are morally corrupt
       
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    6. cirdellin
      No answer to my clear questions

      obfuscation has no value with me, bye bro.
       
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  7. dirtyjedi

    dirtyjedi King ding a ling Banned!

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    From my pov its womens decision what happens to her body, and a child is alive from the moment of conception
    Not really a point in debating something that guys cant comprehend
     
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    1. cirdellin
      Ok but what happens if a woman suddenly wants to abort a week before her delivery date? Is that her right or does the child she is carrying have any rights at all until the umbilical cord is cut? Is that now the definition of life with human protections?
       
      cirdellin, May 17, 2020
    2. dirtyjedi
      Then theres adoption
      A week before due date is murder
      Seriously just walk away
       
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    3. cirdellin
      There will always be people who will push the final decision to the end. At what point do you say it’s too late?
       
      cirdellin, May 17, 2020
    4. dirtyjedi
      Conception
       
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      In what state is it allowed to have an abortion in the 3rd trimester?
       
      Ed Itor, May 18, 2020
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  8. AyaLaRoux

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  9. freethinker

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    Up until birth, scrape 'em loose and suck 'em out. From then until they turn 18, allow abortion retroactively. Once they turn 18, kick their ass out.
     
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      Now, now, that wasn't the question. Let's stay on point.

      And by the way, before conception a fetus doesn't exist - there is an unfertilized egg.
       
      freethinker, May 17, 2020
    3. cirdellin
      And after conception what is it and when does it attain human rights?
       
      cirdellin, May 17, 2020
    4. AyaLaRoux
      It's a fetus after conception and attains human rights at birth. None of this is new, radical or surprising.
       
      AyaLaRoux, May 17, 2020
    5. Cherrypop
      “Ok so five minutes before conception the living being has no right to life but five minutes after it has complete human rights. Does this make any sense on any level?”

      What do you mean? “Conception” is when the baby is conceived. Do you mean 5 min before birth? Because 5 min before conception it doesn’t exist.
       
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    6. cirdellin
      Yes of course I mistyped. Birth. Not conception. Now that this has been clarified, what is your opinion on this matter?
       
      cirdellin, May 18, 2020
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  10. cirdellin

    cirdellin Porn Star Banned!

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    I always want to stay on point!

    No one is answering my question. Did Norma betray feminism?
     
    1. Josef.K.
      Oh. So THAT was your question - you could have fooled me.
       
      Josef.K., May 17, 2020
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      Yes, she betrayed feminism, and so did the #me too movement in not pushing the Tara Reade investigation. Like Rose McGowan said of # me too, "its all bullshit"
       
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  11. freethinker

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    Who cares? Are people required to support one cause or another? She spoke her mind and did what she thought was right. That's enough.
     
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    1. cirdellin
      Did she betray feminism was my question. And no one will answer
       
      cirdellin, May 17, 2020
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      Because no one has a right to 2nd guess another.
      You sir are an idjit if you think that you do.
      And how can you talk about a subject of you don't even understand the terms required?
       
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      I simply asked for opinions
       
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  12. AyaLaRoux

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    Man asks loaded question about women's rights, gets surprised when thread blows up. More at 9.

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      Threads like this made by insensitive cunts, aimed at causing a uproar piss me off.
      No vagina-no opinion
       
      dirtyjedi, May 17, 2020
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      He's a twat now officially.....tied first place with Andy Dickhead

      ts
       
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      Lol true
       
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  13. cirdellin

    cirdellin Porn Star Banned!

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    I’m losing patience with the posters who are happy to answer everything question but the ones I posed.

    Please don’t make me put my own thread on ignore.
     
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      Your thread is a contrived and morally lacking stain on the internet
       
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    2. Ed Itor
      We are not required to answer anything just because someone posts a question.
      Get over yourself.
       
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  14. AyaLaRoux

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    Emotions are not arguments. Please try again!
     
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  15. Rixer

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    I'll go with Dwyane Wade. Mike Roe can't hoop for shit..
     
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  16. cirdellin

    cirdellin Porn Star Banned!

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    Did she betray feminism or not was my question and people are happy to answer any other question, Yes a cowardly evasion.
     
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      Urgh you pedant
      No she did not betray feminism, feminism is a ideal not a mandate:ergo it can not be betrayed as it is guidelines not rules.
      Now go away
       
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  17. AyaLaRoux

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      No, that's me.
       
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    3. dirtyjedi
      Looks kinda like witchblade with 7 of 9s hair cut
       
      dirtyjedi, May 17, 2020
    4. AyaLaRoux
      Maybe. Never been a witchblade fan and I just like short hair.
       
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      Oh ok
       
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      Karen haircut?
       
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  18. cirdellin

    cirdellin Porn Star Banned!

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    I will never go away to appease those who do not wish to deal with thornish issues. Now address the issue I created in this thread.

    McCovey on her deathbed said that her embrace of feminism as to abortion was her greatest regret in her long life. Was she wrong in saying this or not?

    Did she betray anything in feminism and how do you feel about what she said?
     
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    1. dirtyjedi
      Jesus harry christ
      You give my arse a headache
       
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    2. cirdellin
      A question without an answer wtf?
       
      cirdellin, May 17, 2020
    3. Josef.K.
      More of a case of a question without an answer which would
      support your PoV, whatever that might be from one day to
      the next.
       
      Josef.K., May 18, 2020
    4. Ed Itor
      It was her opinion & is not pertinent to anyone else.
       
      Ed Itor, May 18, 2020
    5. cirdellin
      Many feminists questioned women in the porn industry quite aggressive and they were also quite aggressive toward women who chose to be housewives in the 7os. Those choices were not pertinent to anyone else either, yet this is different. Were those feminists wrong?
       
      cirdellin, May 18, 2020
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  19. AyaLaRoux

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