So it appears that the site rules have changed:

5. Texts featuring pedophilia are forbidden.

That's what it now states in the official rules. It used to say that you could not write anything sexual about someone under 18.

So now of course we're wondering where the new line gets drawn. Without a definitive age, it gets cloudy. I looked up pedophilia, and here are some definitions:

1. Sexual feelings directed toward children.
2. Sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object; specifically a psychological disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child.
3. Sexual desire in an adult for a child.
4. An adult who is sexually attracted to young children.

There are more, but these will suffice. So we have "children", "prepubescent child", "child", and "young children" as identifications.

From a creative, realistic standpoint, the rule change makes sense because we all know that coming of age stories typically occur before the age of 18.

What is going to be troublesome is the lack of clarity on what is pedophilia and what isn't.

For me, I don't see this is a problem. I have no burning desire to write about "kids", so, I won't be pushing any limits here. Would I write about a 17 year old and a 15 year old? Possibly, if it was germane to the story being told.

I suspect, however, that once it (the rules change) becomes more widely known, there's going to be a rash of new stories that will indeed push the limit.

I think I shall purchase some popcorn, maybe a hot dog if they look good, a stadium cushion, a scorebook, two pencils, sunglasses, and then I'm going to find myself a good seat overlooking the arena and watch the engagement.

I was far, far too young for the battle at Midway. This, due to the lack of loss of life, should prove to be far, far more entertaining.

 

I saw this too. All that hoopla for nothing. I looked up pedophilia on Wikipedia, since the word seemed vague. In psychiatric parlance, pedophilia is sexual interest by older people (at least sixteen years old), in persons under age thirteen. That's a whole new ball game.

What I fear is a rash of new wall-of-words textspeak twenty line masterpieces. Maybe the owner hoped quietly changing the rule would draw banned writers and others who left back to the site, but at this point, I suspect it won't work.

Oh well, fap stories that sound like they were written by thirteen year olds will no doubt get attention from the other thirteen year old mentalities here. That's more hits, right?

 

Oh boy... I expect we'll see a rash of "pre-teens in love" stories. Frankly, it simply makes it all debatable. On this one issue I'd prefer a well defined line.

Hush....an alias

 

Is it really so goddamned-hard to just write sex stories where the participants are at least 18 years of age ?

 

Not at all. Some of us do that. But some writers were upset with the ham-handed censorship and left. One legitimate argument is that age is simply a number. We all know irresponsible people above and below the magic age that allows them to drive a motor vehicle, handle money, buy tobacco, gamble, have sex, vote, or buy alcohol.

My complaint is two-fold.

• Why the changes?
• Why not announce them? At one point rules were posted on the story site, including the age limit, then they were removed. That allowed writers to submit any damn thing they wanted, which THEN led to their work being removed and them possibly getting banned.

What does the revised rule mean? One person's definition of pedophilia may legitimately differ from another. Are we to go with our own local laws?

Again, no direction.

 

The change means we return to the old mode that brought me and so many others here: freedom of expression, within reason, and a loophole that allows moderators to remove egregiously over-the-top trash.

I, for one, will gently and quietly retire my forest animals saga, if this is for real. (As much as I realize Hush and Horse will miss it. )

And I will put my books back here. Not only the two novels that I removed, but also a third that past fans have not seen. Books which DO NOT violate the rules as of yesterday.

If I can convince myself that this is a real change that we can count on. I've been publicly begging the administrators of this place to return to the free and unfettered expression of the written word. As far as I am concerned, this is the first move toward fixing this place.

And if the owners are lurking, I say KUDOS.

 

Perhaps common sense prevails after all.
The denial of reality never helped anyone.
Unrealistic restrictions are just a bullshit denial of reality.
Like making a rule that you could not mention anything about any driver under the age if 21.
What would be the point ,
or the use ?
Of course , not everyone drives , or wants to at 15 or 16 , but many of us do/did quite legally , and some younger (as I did)
Sex is not automatically bad , dirty or wrong younger than 18 , and never was.
The fact is , that from puberty on , it is natural and inevitable.
When and how is just the normal variety of humanity and nature.

 

You all simply do, not, get it. Human Adults are writing about, fantasizing about, and reading about minors. Not mindless computers, other minors, or no one at all. Adults are being turned on by, and jerking off to the thought of children. Then again you don't care do you, because that is what you want to do. Get off thinking about a child engaged in sex.

You do get that what you just asked for is for a faceless moderator to pick and choose what they deem is appropriate, without reason or logic, "just cuz," right? Well done, good choice. See how objective an individual is compared to a number.

Just as I always said... It was simply your little *SPAM**SPAM**SPAM**SPAM* protest. How sad. What is most amazing is that you are unable to write about something without having to put a minor's age to it. But then again, that is the point after all.

Hush....an alias

 

all that pissing and moaning in the past and they revert it...wtf

 

No, you pathetic sorry ass. NO.

That deer sex thread is a protest against THIS.

Exactly this.

One more thing. The novels I took down mentioned NO AGES and had NO SEX for the first three hundred pages. Yet that thread was the most visited story thread on this forum. EVER.

You miserable excuse for a fuck.

 

Well, no, of course it's not hard. But I will say that there are times it's not ideal. For example, I wrote a story about a teenage girl in Nazi-occupied Paris. In my original concept (years ago), she was 16--which seems shockingly young to be a spy, and yet this is the way it actually did happen in Resistance movements of the '40s, with women and children serving because the war had taken most of the men.

The timeline means the occupation began when she was 12 and undeniably a child, which makes the war experience highly formative.

As published, the character is 18 and the war began when she was 14. The same points still stand, but they're not nearly as dramatic. The two-year difference really did have a substantial effect on the story's tone, and to be honest, losing that little bit of creative freedom was a touch annoying.

I understand why the rule is in place and I'm fine with it, but there are times when I wish it wasn't. As it now apparently isn't?

 

Well at the least I'd say that the site ownership/mgmt. has a warped sense of humor. For what its worth this could change tomorrow or next week so that all characters having sexual awareness must be over 21 or between the ages of 27 and 36 or whatever they like. Its not like there is a discernible reason for what they do and despite some members hopes I'm pretty sure the reason they institute or remove or modify age limits has anything to do with doing the right thing, no matter how you define that.

Only positive to my mind if they stick with it (at least for a decent length of time) is that stories that were posted in good faith and that didn't violate the rules at the time posted will no longer be purged because it was reported years later that a (fictional) character got an erection the day before they turned 18 but I don't expect there to be any consistency here which is the only consistency.

 

I don't like pedophilia and believe it should not be displayed publicly. Kids above 13 don't fall into the pedophilia category. It is against the law to engage them sexually but I don't think it is against any law to write about kids who are over 13.

 

Gee.

I just can't wait to read your shit. Ought to be a real hoot!

You seem to be among the brain trust who are scratching their heads, wondering why the owners would have the gall to make this change.

Well, I don't know. But here's a little guess.

On the day after New Year's, they ran some charts of this forum's activity, through Google Analytics. And they discovered that not one single pathetic motherfucking book burner on this forum could write a piece of shit story that could OUTPULL INTENTIONALLY ILLITERATE TRASH ABOUT UNDERAGED DEER AND CHIPMUNKS.

(deer sex! cum n' cum! yay! clicky my siggy!!!!)

So maybe-- just maybe-- the owners of XNXX came to this conclusion: Two years ago they folded to a torch bearing mob that chased out every writer with a modicum of talent, had their work expunged in a Great Purge, and replaced it with... ZIPPO.

Christ. Don't bitch. WRITE.

 

How sure are you about this? I don't want to post my stories and then get banned again.

 

Very unsettling that it's so important for some people to post sex stories about underage characters...

 

Yep, been about what I expected.

I've had Hush and Clarise on ignore for months now, but I had to view everything on this thread. Oh, CharlesWolf too. I like ignoring ignorant people. Great feature for this site. But I gotta' say that I'm happy that Clarise may be coming back. Some of the best writing the site has seen. Looking forward to that.

To those of you who feel that writing about two 16 year olds exploring their sexuality is wrong, you obviously have your own, personal issues that probably should be discussed with a therapist. I wrote a story a few months back about Joan of Arc. The vast majority of the story was sexless because she died at age 19. Any sexual reference had to wait until she was 18. Not 16. Not 17. 18. Back in her time, people got married way younger than today because their life expectancy was far, far shorter. So they had sex earlier too. Does that make all of them perverts and deviants? No. It was the times in which they lived.

Most entertaining thread I've seen here in a while. ;-)

 

+1

My books are not even bannable under the old rules. But I am not putting them back until I see some other writers WELCOMED back to this place by some of the rat turds who tried so hard to destroy it.

 

Truth
What's this truth you speak of ?
Get thee hence.
Be off with you.
We can't have any truth round here.
Fool.
This is a fantasy porn web sight for adults ,
there's absolutely no room here for any truth or honesty ,
let alone reality.

I mean half the members dont even know what is reality under age , let alone reality truth.

I mean anyone who likes 17 year olds is a pedofile
aren't they ?
Oh geezze , I married one ,
hush , don't tell authorities ,
she was a great fuck.
I'm afraid I've known some terrible sinners in my life .
But wait ,
No they weren't , they were mostly quite normal ,
even legal ,
they just were mostly having sex before they were 17
Never mind , don't let reality get in the way

 

According to Hush, you are.