That's a really interesting statistic, @BigSuzyB.

Looking at WorldPopulationReview.com, in 2019 (latest figures that site has) apparently 250k people died worldwide by gun, and America contributed 37k of that. So - YEP! That's 14.8%. Land of the Free represents "15%" of all gun deaths worldwide.

Brazil was the only country with more gun deaths, at 49k. After the USA, Venezuela had 29k, Mexico 22k, and India 15k to round out the Top 5.

But, to be fair, that's just numbers of deaths - it doesn't take into account the population of those countries. I mean - I could say Australia only had about 200 gun deaths in 2019 (which we did)... but we also have only 7% of the population of the USA. (We all know very well of course - per capita there's simply no comparison with AUS vs USA, but - we also know I'm a fair person.)

So - whilst 15% of all gun deaths will be American deaths... you're still not a Top 10 Country when it comes to per capita gun deaths. Of course, you're still only comparable to a bunch of 3rd world countries ran by despots and crime gangs... So whilst I've always compared Australia to America most of my life - America is really more comparable to Mexico and Brazil...

 

Live by Second Amendment.

 

Fixed your children dying from guns problem, yet? No?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/05/children-deaths-guns-rising

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/01/us/gun-deaths-project-why-gdpr/index.html

https://www.axios.com/2023/04/10/gun-deaths-among-children-are-soaring

So, how does me firing a gun help fix that problem? Make me feel like a big man? So big and tough I could take on anyone I got angry with? Make me feel so powerful I could just go to school/work/the mall/movies/park/music festival and kill anyone who stood in my way?

I don't want Aussie kids dying from guns, too. We don't have your problem here. You can keep your guns and your shooting range, but why don't you do something constructive and petition your government to repeal the 2A, and reform gun ownership. That would actually be something helpful, instead of telling me I need to fire a gun.

 

until we fix the security infrastructure in schools, aint shit gonna change

 

We have to stop the "Gun Hater" from winning elections and so on. Our country is a super power of this world. Part of that reason, is us, armed citizens. So raise a firearm to the rest of the world.

 

Fix the problem?
How arrogant of you to think you can fix our problem.
You can't.
The idea of you going to a gun range is not to fix our problem.
It's to fix your problem of being stupid about something you think you are an expert on.
They even have a word for what you have; ultracrepidarian (thank you @Allie in cali )
But you can go ahead and stay stupid if that pleases you.

 

Route 91 Harvest music festival, Las Vegas, October 2, 2017: 60 killed, more than 850 injured.

 

fuck both of you, you are both retarded and insane

 

Robb Elementary School, Uvalde, Texas, May 24, 2022: 21 killed.

 

And even when a doctor tries to cure a patient that does NOT want to be treated, it will never happen.

Save your breathe, @darkride, just stick to posting facts, as you've always done.

 

There Are Far More Defensive Gun Uses Than Murders. Here's Why You Rarely Hear of Them


Americans who look only at the daily headlines would be surprised to learn that, according to academic estimates, defensive gun uses — including instances when guns are simply shown to deter a crime — are four to five times more common than gun crimes, and far more frequent than the roughly 20,000 murders or fewer each year, with or without a gun. But even when they prevent mass public shootings, defensive uses rarely get national news coverage. Those living in major news markets such as New York City, Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles are unlikely to hear of such stories.

As of Aug. 10, America’s five largest newspapers — the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, USA Today, and the Wall Street Journal — have published a combined total of 10 news stories this year reporting a civilian using a gun to successfully stop a crime, according to a search of the Nexis database of news stories. By contrast, those same newspapers had a total of 1,743 news stories containing the keywords “murder” or “murdered” or “murders” and “gunfire,” “shot,” or “shots.” Including articles with the word “wounded,” the total rises to 2,764.

“Nobody who has done their homework on defensive gun use could possibly believe reading news articles accurately captures anything but an infinitesimal share of defensive gun uses,” Tomislav Kovandzic, an associate professor of criminology at the University of Texas at Dallas, told RealClearInvestigations. “The only way to measure defensive gun uses is with surveys. While there is no such thing as a perfect measure of anything, the fact that they consistently show large numbers of defensive gun uses can’t be ignored.”

The U.S. Department of Justice’s National Crime Victimization Survey indicates that around 100,000 defensive gun uses occur each year -- an estimate that, though it may seem like a lot, is actually much lower than 17 other surveys. They find between 760,000 defensive handgun uses and 3.6 million defensive uses of any type of gun per year, with an average of about 2 million.

The difference between these surveys arises from the screening questions. The National Crime Victimization Survey first asks a person if they have been a victim of a crime. Only respondents who answer “yes” are asked if they have ever used a gun defensively.

In contrast, the other surveys screen respondents by asking if they have been threatened with violence. That produces more self-acknowledged defensive gun users, since someone who successfully brandished a gun is less likely to self-characterize as a crime victimSurvey data indicate that in 95% of cases when people use guns defensively, they merely show the gun to make the criminal back off. Such defensive gun uses rarely make the news, though a few do.

In March, a man police described as “armed and dangerous” attempted to rob a home in Smith County, Texas. The homeowner pulled a gun and the intruder "fled away on foot.” The criminal had shot a woman the night before and had previous “outstanding warrants for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and felon in possession of a firearm.”

Later that same month, in Joplin, Missouri, a husband choked his wife during an argument. The wife was able to grab a gun to protect herself. The man fled the house and drove away before cops caught up with him.

In May, in Ogden, Utah, a stranger grabbed an 11-year-old girl on a school playground. An armed teacher observed this from inside the school, ran outside and confronted the suspect, giving the girl the chance to pull away from the attacker. The teacher held the man at gunpoint until police were able to arrive.


Leading news outfits rely on the Gun Violence Archive to track firearm use. The GVA, however, relies primarily on news reports, creating literally an unvirtuous circle. This media coverage focuses on the most extreme cases, which academic research suggests is actually a minority of gun uses.
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He is being very cooperative with the investigation and his story matches with witness statements.”

The Gun Violence Archive lists some incidents as purely criminal acts of violence when they really entailed defensive gun uses. Here are a few:

• West Palm Beach, Fla., Jan. 2, 2021: A concealed handgun permit holder found a burglar inside his vehicle and shot and wounded the man in self-defense.
• Lakehead, Calif., April 18, 2021: A man called two people racial slurs before pulling out a handgun and shooting both of them. But two men with guns apprehended him and held him until police arrived.
• Chicago, July 1: A man legally carrying a concealed handgun followed an SUV that left an accident. The SUV driver stopped, got out, and started firing at the legal gun owner. The permit holder returned fire, and the SUV drove away.

Many crimes also go unreported, so it is likely that many defensive gun uses are never known to the police and thus unknown to the media. Numbers from the Bureau of Justice Statistics show that less than half of violent crime victims report violent crime to police.

But even dramatic cases that get local news coverage -- cases in which mass public shootings were prevented -- don’t receive national news coverage. Consider a few compiled by the Crime Prevention Research Center over the last year, involving people legally carrying concealed handguns:

• A man upset because of a medical condition walked into a Weslaco, Texas, Walmart, last fall with an AK-47 bent on shooting people. A legal gun owner intervened and, according to the local TV station, “his actions led to the man putting down the gun.” As the “hero” recounted: “He was totally surprised. Got him to put the AK-47 down. He was very upset because I had destroyed his plans.”
• In Brownsburg, Ind., in July 2020, a man opened fire on workers at a cemetery and continued the attack on a nearby street. A concealed-carry permit holder fatally shot the attacker. “‘This tragic event could have been much more disastrous,” said police Capt. Jennifer Barrett.
• In Hummels Wharf, Pa., that same month, an attacker opened fire in restaurant parking lot, killing two people. A man in the restaurant with a permitted concealed handgun wounded the attacker. “Thankfully, he helped prevent further bloodshed,” the local prosecutor said.
• In Dallas, also in July 2020, a man “just started spraying” a sports bar with an “assault-style weapon” at full-capacity. But the shooter fled when he was “confronted by armed patrons” who shot back at him.

There are dozens of such cases from the last few years, but it is unlikely that many have heard of them since they attracted only local media coverage.

In extremely rare instances when national news media do cover a legal gun carrier’s prevention of a massacre, they can have a hard time getting the story straight.

Take the fatal shooting of two at the West Freeway Church of Christ near Fort Worth, Texas, in December 2019, for example. The media covered this attack, but repeatedly described the parishioners who stopped further bloodshed as “security guards.” “These were not security professionals, just members of the church designated as security personnel as a kind of honorary title,” Jack Wilson, the church member credited with stopping the attack, told RCI. Wilson said that 19 to 20 members of the congregation were armed, but that neither he nor the church monitored who was carrying.

Lott is the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center and the author most recently of “Gun Control Myths.” Until January, Lott was the senior adviser for research and statistics at the U.S. Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Policy.

 

Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Conn., December 2012: 26 killed.

 

yet no politician pushes talks of funding public schools for more security infrastructure

sit down traitor

 

First Baptist Church, Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 2017: 26 killed and 20 injured.

 

Luby's Cafeteria, Killeen, Texas, October 1991: 23 killed.

 

less would have died had that woman had a gun