Wikileaks Strikes Again

stumbler · Mar 8, 2017

First let me give you some true life irony. Ever since the assassination of JFK I was the one who believed and complained that the entire intelligence was dominated by a secret group of conservatives who assassinated liberal leaders and conducted black-ops to make sure Republicans got elected president. Because presidents come and go but people in the intelligence community are there for life.

And now all you Trump supporters have joined me in that belief.

Second, when I look at this story I feel like the Church Lady on SNL; "Well isn't that convenient." Let's see here. Trump loves Wikileaks and Putin/Russia. And doesn't like our own intelligence community. Russia hacks our elections and feeds the information to Wikileaks. And now all of a sudden Wikileaks dumps a whole new set of very damaging hacked documents which just so happens happens to support Trump and change the narrative. And all those are just to be just one big coincidence? Bullshit.

And third what do these kinds of leaks have in common? They are people who actually work for private contractors not our government. Which is what always happens when our government gets rid of government employees and turns to the private sector.

RandyKnight · Mar 8, 2017

stumbler said: ↑

First let me give you some true life irony. Ever since the assassination of JFK I was the one who believed and complained that the entire intelligence was dominated by a secret group of conservatives who assassinated liberal leaders and conducted black-ops to make sure Republicans got elected president. Because presidents come and go but people in the intelligence community are there for life.

And now all you Trump supporters have joined me in that belief.

Second, when I look at this story I feel like the Church Lady on SNL; "Well isn't that convenient." Let's see here. Trump loves Wikileaks and Putin/Russia. And doesn't like our own intelligence community. Russia hacks our elections and feeds the information to Wikileaks. And now all of a sudden Wikileaks dumps a whole new set of very damaging hacked documents which just so happens happens to support Trump and change the narrative. And all those are just to be just one big coincidence? Bullshit.

And third what do these kinds of leaks have in common? They are people who actually work for private contractors not our government. Which is what always happens when our government gets rid of government employees and turns to the private sector.
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this is old but...judge for yourself...

go 38 minutes in...

stumbler · Mar 8, 2017

RandyKnight said: ↑

this is old but...judge for yourself...

go 38 minutes in...

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He just happened to be in Dallas on November 22, 1963. Well isn't that convenient?

And did you ever see the picture of the Reagan/Bush stickers in in CIA offices that had Reagan crossed out?

And then we had another Bush and almost had three. Well isn't that convenient?

PS And now you'll have to excuse me for a while. I accidentally lied to someone on another thread and I need to go back and correct that.

RandyKnight · Mar 8, 2017

stumbler said: ↑

He just happened to be in Dallas on November 22, 1963. Well isn't that convenient?

And did you ever see the picture of the Reagan/Bush stickers in in CIA offices that had Reagan crossed out?

And then we had another Bush and almost had three. Well isn't that convenient?
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Hey at least watch the last 30 mins....

You are full blow gone these days....

I agree with you and you still jump my ass.....

must be real sad to be you....

fanbrits johnson · Mar 8, 2017

i dont think it still surprises anyone

RandyKnight · Mar 8, 2017

The world is now aware of 7,818 web pages with 943 attachments from the CIA Center for Cyber Intelligence. And we're told that there is more, totaling "…several hundred million lines of code…", according to WikiLeaks, that may ultimately be revealed. The word "may" is important, because WikiLeaks has decided, for now, to redact many names of both CIA assets and targets, and to withhold the actual code until, "…a consensus emerges on the technical and political nature of the CIA's program and how such 'weapons' should analyzed, disarmed and published."

In a March 7 press release announcing the public disclosure, WikiLeaks wrote, "By the end of 2016, the CIA's hacking division, which formally falls under the agency's Center for Cyber Intelligence (CCI), had over 5000 registered users and had produced more than a thousand hacking systems, trojans, viruses, and other 'weaponized' malware. Such is the scale of the CIA's undertaking that by 2016, its hackers had utilized more code than that used to run Facebook."

It's not news to note that the US government has developed a substantial code base of applications to use for spying through and disabling computer systems. In August of 2016, The Shadow Brokers, a hacker or group of hackers, auctioned software that it claimed had originated in a state-sponsored hacking group affiliated with the NSA. At that time, WikiLeaks claimed that it also had clean copies of the software that it would release, though no release has yet occurred.

stumbler · Mar 8, 2017

RandyKnight said: ↑

Hey at least watch the last 30 mins....

You are full blow gone these days....

I agree with you and you still jump my ass.....

must be real sad to be you....
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Sorry you took it that way. I guess you are so sensitive these days I needed to add a smiley face or something so you could tell I was being friendly and agreed with you.

Although I do admit I've been a little distracted this morning and doing the happy dance in other places.

stumbler · Mar 8, 2017

RandyKnight said:

sometimes it is hard to get off attack mode...

your writing is forceful....
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And I even admitted I falsely accused you of being wrong all the time.

clarise · Mar 8, 2017

RandyKnight said: ↑

Hillary wanted to drone him and that is on record....

There was a movie out a year or so ago about how he started that reveals a lot about who he is....

Kill him and it will go on as he has close folks that already want to be him....he fights to stay in control
of his group....His stuff is stashed around the world on several hidden private servers just ready to be put online.
(most people dont have a clue how much a terabit holds)

50 bucks

Passport Ultra USB 3.0 Secure 1 TB Portable Hard Drive

I still dont know why Ecuador allows him to be in their London HQ...
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Seagate makes 3TB and 5TB versions with the same physical profile, and they work on both WinTel and Mac out of the box, without having to split the space into partitions. I gave a bunch to family and friends as stocking stuffers this past Christmas.

Assange can likely store petabytes with ease.

stumbler · Mar 8, 2017

Let's see here. The leaker is suspected to be a private contractor. And who else was a private contractor? Oh it was Snowdon. And where is Snowdon now? Is it Russia? Well, isn't that convenient.

wantingnot · Mar 9, 2017

Don't care who. Don't care how. Don't care how. Keep leaking. Truth. Truth. Truth. Truth is what is needed. Politicians -- and the clandestined leaders -- will not deal in truth. Truth must be gathered from wherever, however.

RandyKnight · Mar 9, 2017

stumbler said: ↑

Let's see here. The leaker is suspected to be a private contractor. And who else was a private contractor? Oh it was Snowdon. And where is Snowdon now? Is it Russia? Well, isn't that convenient.
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See who hired them....same fuckers saying they can Vet Muslim refugees....

stumbler · Mar 9, 2017

RandyKnight said: ↑

See who hired them....same fuckers saying they can Vet Muslim refugees....
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No they are usually the friends or relatives of Republican congressmen or their big campaign contributors.

xxxaddict76 · Mar 9, 2017

If Wikileaks releases the code we are all fucked. #4 is some scary shit.

WikiLeaks CIA files: The 6 biggest spying secrets revealed by the release of 'Vault 7'

1) The CIA has the ability to break into Android and iPhone handsets, and all kinds of computers

2) Doing so would make apps like Signal, Telegram and WhatsApp entirely insecure

3) The CIA could use smart TVs to listen in on conversations that happened around them

4) The agency explored hacking into cars and crashing them, allowing 'nearly undetectable assassinations'

5) The CIA hid vulnerabilities that could be used by hackers from other countries or governments

6) More information is coming

*not_secure_link*www.independent.co...ear-zero-julian-assange-secrets-a7616826.html

stumbler · Mar 9, 2017

The WikiLeaks-Russia connection started way before the 2016 election

Julian Assange insists, against all evidence, that the hacked Democratic emails WikiLeaks published didn't come from Russian intelligence services. “Our source is not the Russian government,” he said in a Tuesday interview with Fox News’s Sean Hannity.

This is a touch hard to believe. Publicly available evidence, including unique code and Russian writing in the hacked documents themselves, links the document theft to Russian state-sponsored hacks. Every US intelligence agency that has investigated the issue has concluded Russia is, in fact, responsible. Leaks from their analyses, reported by CNN and the Washington Post, indicate that the US has identified the go-betweens used by Russia to hand documents to WikiLeaks. Assange is either lying or willfully blind to the facts.

Indeed, when it comes to Russia, Assange doesn’t have a ton of credibility.

Throughout WikiLeaks’ existence, the allegedly pro-transparency group has had strange, shadowy, but very well-documented connections to the Russian state. The connections range from sharing purloined documents with a pro-Russian dictator to Assange receiving money for appearing on Russian state TV to WikiLeaks’ key involvement in NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden ending up in Russia.

These incidents don’t prove, as some have alleged, that Assange is some kind of paid Russian agent, or that WikiLeaks is a Russian front organization. But they do show that WikiLeaks, an organization purportedly devoted to transparency, is at a minimum okay with helping out the world’s most aggressively authoritarian leader.

The Kremlin is just as friendly. Russian officials, up to and including Putin himself, have defended Assange and WikiLeaks — with one Russian official even suggesting Assange deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. It’s a strange relationship: a secretive quasi-dictator lining up alongside a group that says it's dedicated to revealing state secrets. But it's the relationship Putin appears to have turned to when he was looking for a trusted ally to leak the emails hacked from Clinton’s circle.

“I don’t necessarily think he’s some sort of paid agent for the Russians,” says Chris Zappone, an editor at the Age newspaper in Assange’s native Australia who has covered Assange’s Russian ties extensively. “But I do think he’s being manipulated by the Russians.”

The curious case of Israel Shamir

WikiLeaks first came to international attention in 2010, when it published secret US government footage showing American helicopters in Iraq firing at journalists. By the end of the year, it had also published tranches of US military documents on the Afghan War as well as State Department diplomatic cables.

These disclosures established what would become a clear pattern: WikiLeaks disclosures would, disproportionately, reveal secrets about the United States and its allies. They also established the group as a major player on the international stage, bringing it in for a level of scrutiny it had never received before.

One of the things reporters uncovered was the strange past of one WikiLeaks employee: a professional anti-Semite named Israel Shamir.

Shamir, who has gone by six names over the course of his life, was born Izrail Schmerler, in Russia. He converted from Judaism to the Greek Orthodox Church later in life, and turned viciously on his former co-religionists. He has denied the Holocaust, called Jews “a virus in human form,” and, in 2010, published a book titled Breaking the Conspiracy of the Elders of Zion.

Shamir was also a longtime friend of Julian Assange, who tasked him with helping to disseminate WikiLeaks documents in his native Russia in early 2010.

“Shamir has a years-long friendship with Assange, and was privy to the contents of tens of thousands of US diplomatic cables months before WikiLeaks made public the full cache,” James Ball, a former WikiLeaks staffer, wrote at the Guardian the next year. “Shamir aroused the suspicion of several WikiLeaks staffers — myself included — when he asked for access to all cable material concerning ‘the Jews,’ a request which was refused.”

The first thing Shamir did with the documents was hand some off to Russian Reporter magazine, a Kremlin-friendly newsweekly. He then offered to sell access to them to the highest bidder, David Leigh and Luke Harding write in the book Wikileaks: Inside Julian Assange’s War on Secrecy.

But what he did next was exceptionally curious. Shamir traveled to Belarus, a country ruled by dictator Alexander Lukashenko and perhaps Putin’s staunchest ally in Europe. Shamir was a fan of Lukashenko; in a 2010 piece, he called Belarus “the Shangri-la of the post-Soviet development.”

In Belarus, Shamir shared State Department cables pertaining to the country with government officials — in unredacted, unedited form.

In January 2011, Belarusian state-run media began publishing what it said were US diplomatic cables from Shamir’s cache, alleging that Lukashenko’s opponents were funded abroad. According to several Belarusian dissidents who spoke to Tablet, the names in the cables were also used to identify lower-level dissidents.

“The extent to which WikiLeaks and Israel Shamir have endangered the lives of pro-democracy activists in Belarus will become chillingly clear as innocent men and women continue to disappear,” Kapil Komireddi, author of the Tablet piece, writes.

WikiLeaks issued a weak public disavowal of Shamir’s Belarusian caper in February 2011, saying “obviously it is not approved.” But according to Ball, the internal discourse on Shamir was somewhat different.

“Assange shamefully refused to investigate [the Belarus incident],” Ball recalled in his Guardian piece. “The two [Shamir and Assange] remain close.”

This isn’t a direct link between Assange and the Kremlin, per se. But it established what would soon become a clear pattern: Assange and WikiLeaks providing cover to authoritarians, especially those allied with Putin.

Assange claims to be a radical opponent of authoritarianism and state oppression. But he allowed Shamir to hand off documents to a pro-Kremlin publication, exclusively, and then use his documents to aid a state-sponsored crackdown on dissidents. Assange showed no meaningful remorse afterward.

Assange was literally paid by the Russian government

As all this was going on, Russian officials began praising Assange and WikiLeaks at an increasingly loud volume. It was becoming clear that Assange’s disclosures targeted and embarrassed the United States far more than any other power — music to the Kremlin’s ears.

In December 2010, shortly after Shamir handed off cables to Belarus, an anonymous Kremlin official suggested that Assange should be given the Nobel Peace Prize. The next day, Vladimir Putin personally defended Assange against charges, filed in Sweden, that he had raped two women. According to Putin, the allegations were politically motivated and not credible. (Swedish courts disagree.)

"If it is full democracy, then why have they hidden Mr. Assange in prison? That's what, democracy?" the Russian leader said at a press conference. The next month, the Russian government offered Assange a visa — an opportunity to live in a country that would not likely extradite him to Sweden.

In April 2012, the relationship between Assange and Russia became direct for the first time. Specifically, Assange became a star on Russia Today (RT), Russia’s state-funded English-language propaganda outlet.

“With WikiLeaks’ funding drying up — under American pressure, Visa and MasterCard had stopped accepting donations — Russia Today began broadcasting a show called ‘The World Tomorrow’ with Mr. Assange as the host,” the New York Times reported in a 2016 piece on Assange’s Russian ties.

The exact nature of the arrangement between RT and Assange has never been very clear. Assange and WikiLeaks insist that Assange was never employed by RT, and that RT was only one of many broadcasters that bought rights to air Assange’s show. Either way, though, Assange was paid by the Kremlin. According to the Times, the amount of money he received has never been disclosed.

The World Tomorrow had a decidedly anti-American bent, in keeping with much of RT’s programming and Assange’s own writing. Its first episode was a polite interview with Hassan Nasrallah, the head of the Iranian-backed Lebanese terrorist group Hezbollah. In the interview, Assange refers to Nasrallah as a “freedom fighter,” telling him “you have fought against a hegemony of the United States.”

That this was serving an ideological purpose could have been lost on Assange. RT is designed to be the voice of the Russian state in the English-speaking world, particularly America. It’s part of a broad-based Russian propaganda effort aimed at whitewashing Putin’s government, using attacks on alleged US misdeeds as a key strategy.

It’s an old tactic used by Soviet apologists, called “whataboutism.” Whenever an American criticized the Soviet Union, the Soviet apologist would say, “What about the bad things America does?” This wasn’t a genuine moral criticism of the United States, which was often quite deserved, so much as a debating tactic aimed at deflecting a moral critique of Soviet policy.

Assange eagerly participated in an extended campaign of whataboutism. Not just that, in fact: He was paid by an authoritarian government, one that kills and arrests dissenters, for doing so. His principles as a transparency activist seem not to have gotten in the way.

From Snowden to Trump

After Assange’s brief stint on RT — The World Tomorrow only lasted 12 episodes — links between Assange and Russia kept cropping up. A few notable examples:

Assange claims to have inspired Snowden to flee to Russia: “I thought, and in fact advised Edward Snowden, that he would be safest in Moscow,” he told Democracy Now. A WikiLeaks employee, Sarah Harrison, literally flew with Snowden from Hong Kong (where he had been living) to Moscow.

In order to avoid extradition to Sweden, Assange holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. According to the Ecuadorian publication Focus Ecuador, Assange asked for control over the selection of his bodyguards, and insisted that they be Russian.

Assange used the WikiLeaks Twitter account to attack the 2016 Panama Papers leaks, which disclosed a $2 billion overseas account of Vladimir Putin’s. Assange labeled the leak a US-sponsored plot to undermine Putin and Russia.

Again, none of these even hint that Assange is a Russian agent. What they do show, when put together, is that Assange doesn’t see Russia as an enemy or a target. He instead seems to see them as something akin to “the enemy of my enemy” — the “enemy,” in this case, being the US and its allies. As a result, he is more than happy to work with them in situations where their interests align.

Which brings us to the 2016 election hack and Assange’s denial of Russian involvement.

Assange’s history shows that he is not an impartial arbiter when it comes to Russia and the United States. He is more than willing to carry water for the Russian state, as evidenced by his stint on RT. In the absence of public evidence supporting them, his denials should be given very little weight — he is merely repeating the line set out by his friends in the Kremlin.

Now, this could be because Assange is actively lying. My own suspicion is a little different: that he’s in something more like willful denial. The Russian go-between that handed him the documents likely posed as anonymous, and Assange probably didn’t ask too many questions (as is standard practice at WikiLeaks).

It would be inconvenient for him to admit that the evidence shows Russia gave him the documents. He’d be conceding far more brazen collaboration between WikiLeaks and an authoritarian power than we’ve seen in the past, which would further damage the group’s already fraying credibility. It also would embarrass said authoritarian state, perhaps WikiLeaks’ most reliable partner on the world stage, for Assange to contradict its public line.

But I can’t prove it either — Assange didn’t respond to an interview request for this piece. The thing I am quite sure of, however, is that Julian Assange has proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, to be very much less than clear-eyed when Russia is involved.
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clarise · Mar 9, 2017

stumbler said: ↑

The WikiLeaks-Russia connection started way before the 2016 election
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You don't source this article.

I wonder if the author has any credibility whatsoever.

The first paragraph starts out with "... against all evidence..."

Against "all" of what evidence? There is none.

The unnamed author in defense of that assertion points to the fact that code used in the hacks has Russian origin. This is the defense we've been hearing since October. But it is silly on its face. Even if true, it is non-information, because it is evidence of nothing whatsoever.

Here are the problems with this "evidence":

Software of Russian origin is used by hackers all over the world, because hack tools are openly traded.

Just because Russians wrote it (even if true), this doesn't mean the Federation of Russia commissioned its authorship. The authors could be kids in dorm rooms.

Just because the software was written by Russians (even if true), does not mean Russians used it to perpetrate the hacks. Could have been anyone, anywhere.

Even if Russians used it to perpetrate the hacks (for which there is no evidence whatsoever), this does not mean they represent or did it at the behest of an official of the Federation of Russia.

Even if the persons who commissioned the hacks were officials of the Federation of Russia, this does not mean they acted in an official capacity, directed in accordance with some official policy. They could have been rogues.

So all of this evidence amounts to nothing but suppositions and speculative conclusions that are indefensible, even if it is true that portions of the source code were written in Cyrillic.

And I, for one, personally, do not even believe that much. Any "breadcrumb trail" left by such an operation would consist of machine code. The source code would be long gone. The actual code that was executed could have been modified and adapted a thousand times, in a variety of languages, so far removed from the origin that the perpetrator could have done the work from Belize.

The whole thing is silly. All this time and effort wasted, and to this day not a shred of evidence that anything at all happened.

When MEANWHILE, we know for a fact, and it is undeniable, that at least some of the 2016 campaign hacks had to have come from the inside. Only a portion of the hacks could have been perpetrated from somewhere else. But there were some document releases that were definitely, necessarily the result of an inside job.

Ficxa 479 · Mar 9, 2017

And still USA blames Russia for Election Hack/ Amers are so deep in a shit that what ever you would do turns into shit it is gona take a decade of proper whashin may be better a flood could cure them those Amers

stumbler · Mar 9, 2017

Trump’s ‘unofficial adviser’ Nigel Farage visits Julian Assange’s home after CIA docs leaked

Nigel Farage, who led the push for Brexit and a campaign backer of Donald Trump, visited the Ecuadorian embassy two days after WikiLeaks dumped a trove of purported CIA documents online.

Farage, who serves as an “unofficial adviser” to Trump, visited the London embassy where WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has claimed asylum since 2012, reported Buzzfeed.

A reporter from the website approached Farage as he left the embassy, but the former leader of the UK Independence Party claimed he couldn’t remember what he’d been doing in the building just moments earlier.

The Buzzfeed reporter asked Farage if he’d gone to the embassy to meet with Assange, but he declined to comment.

“I never discuss where I go or who I see,” Farage said.

Assange is wanted in Sweden as part of a sexual assault investigation, and he has lived in the Ecuadorian embassy for nearly five years to avoid extradition.

Farage spent about 40 minutes at the embassy Thursday morning, and was accompanied by Christian Mitchell, head of operations at the LBC radio station where the former UKIP leader hosts a regular program.

WikiLeaks published a trove of documents Tuesday that describe in detail how the CIA uses software tools and techniques used to hack into smartphones, computers and even Internet-connected televisions.

The leaks came as Trump continues to battle U.S. intelligence agencies over claims that Russia assisted his campaign by hacking his Democratic rival’s campaign and shared the stolen data through WikiLeaks.

Another one of Trump’s associates, Roger Stone, reportedly communicated with a hacker group that intelligence officials believe is responsible for stealing the data from the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta.

Stone, a longtime friend of Trump’s and a former campaign employee, is reportedly under FBI investigation for his ties to Russia, along with former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, former campaign adviser Carter Page and former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

The FBI is also investigating the leak of the CIA documents, which both WikiLeaks and U.S. authorities believe was committed by a disaffected insider rather than a foreign agent.
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stumbler · Mar 10, 2017

There is another aspect of this Wikileaks dump I have now seen on all three major networks, at least three cable news networks I watch, and multiple news sites on the internet and its been sneaking up on Trump until now its too late.

And that is the question why hasn't Trump himself spoken out condemning Wikileaks or even publicly addressed this huge security breach and possible threat to national security?

Trump's silence and dereliction of duty to the American people on this security breach has been so deafening it has now led to another question. "Did Nigel Farage go to meet with Julian Assange at Trump's request."

Which is also why I am seeing lots of video clips of Trump saying how much he loves Wikileaks.

shootersa · Mar 10, 2017

xxxaddict76 said: ↑

If Wikileaks releases the code we are all fucked. #4 is some scary shit.

WikiLeaks CIA files: The 6 biggest spying secrets revealed by the release of 'Vault 7'

1) The CIA has the ability to break into Android and iPhone handsets, and all kinds of computers

2) Doing so would make apps like Signal, Telegram and WhatsApp entirely insecure

3) The CIA could use smart TVs to listen in on conversations that happened around them

4) The agency explored hacking into cars and crashing them, allowing 'nearly undetectable assassinations'

5) The CIA hid vulnerabilities that could be used by hackers from other countries or governments

6) More information is coming

*not_secure_link*www.independent.co...ear-zero-julian-assange-secrets-a7616826.html
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Interesting.
A as early as 2011 the web was alive with reports that foreign made chips come with malware imbedded in them.
This is not new information.
Russian hackers?
CIA hackers?
Fuck that.

Worry about China hackers.

Worry about your blender attacking you.

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