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  1. Cherrypop

    Cherrypop Wicked Kitten

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    The kids always come first. I absolutely believe that. But is staying together “for the kids” actually putting them first? Is thinking that they’re better off with both parents really what’s best for them? Especially if the relationship is hostile or cold? There are always extenuating circumstances, but in the case of a toxic relationship, is the benefit of having both parents living together better than having them live apart?
     
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  2. Cherrypop

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    I was in relationship with my kid’s dad and it sucked. Even though his dad is a good man and father, he’s a crap partner. So I was miserable but I stayed for my son’s sake. He was having some issues and I didn’t want to bring turmoil into his life. I would never put my own needs ahead of my kid’s. But after a few years of this, I was feeling depressed, lonely, resentful, and angry. I felt suffocated by my ex. We never argued, but we never did anything. My son never saw us holding hands or snuggling together or any sort of affection. So I realized that that was a shitty way to raise my kid. He’d grow up thinking that was how a loving relationship should be. And I’m sure sub-consciously he was picking up on my sadness and misery. So I ended it and it was awful having to be the “bad guy.” His dad blamed me for ending things, but it was the best thing I could have done. Now his dad is seeing someone, and my kid is happy and well adjusted and all is fine. It was the hardest thing I ever did, and I felt guilty and worried, but it was the right thing to do for all of us. I think kids seeing their parents happy and healthy is better for them than seeing them miserable and defeated.
     
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      And co-parenting can be just as positive as living together.
       
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  3. submissively speaking

    submissively speaking Sassochist

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  4. Bitsman

    Bitsman Marquis de Sade

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    Simple answer.... No. Staying together for the kids is a horrible idea... Kids know when things are not right... No matter how amicable mom and dad are together, if there is tension and there always will be in such a situation kids pick up on it... That has a more negative effect then just splitting up....
     
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  5. Sanity_is_Relative

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    Saying that you are doing it for the kids is a cop out, they see reality and know that their parents are miserable making them miserable.
     
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  6. Cherrypop

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    To play the devil’s advocate, what if there are special circumstances? What if one parent tries to keep the other from seeing the kids? I know the rights of fathers varies from country to country. Or what if one parent has an addiction? Or they are just a terrible parent?
     
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      Denying access is often a bad situation. In the U.S., it's pretty easy for the custodial parent (usually the mother) to deny access to the non-custodial parent. I've read too many stories about kids who grew up believing that their non-custodial parent didn't love them or want them, only to find out later that the custodial parent was throwing away letters and cards, changing phone numbers so that the non-custodial parent could not call them, etc.
       
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  7. bigbird

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    Sometimes I wish my folks had split up - wasn’t much fun growing up in a household with parents yelling at each other all the time- luckily it never came to blows between them anyway - however they did stick it out - and it was the perfect example to me - and I have lived my 29 years of married life trying every minute not to be like my father, and admiring the fortitude and strength of my mother. I know how to love and show affection at every opportunity- so I guess I didn’t need to see it in others to know how to do a good job as a dad and as a husband after all
     
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  8. BoundSlave

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    I'm so glad my parents split. It was better for me and I knew that from a young age. One household (staying together for me) produced abuse while the other (separated) created at least one good household.

    Kids aren't dumb and adults rarely consider they're just little humans like us with just as complex feelings.
     
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  9. conroe4

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    My ex was certified crazy. Was even hospitalized for it. My lawyer said there was no chance for me to get custody. ZERO chance.
    So I stayed to protect my kids.
     
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      Sounds like your court system is as fucked as the uk one
       
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      Lawyer said it didn't matter if she was a gutter slut on crack. A man in Texas has zero chance of getting his kids for custody.

      The only way is if she gives up custody voluntarily, and that wasn't about to happen.

      No, it's not right.
       
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      I’m sorry. That’s such shit. I don’t think it’s fair how fathers are treated in the courts. They’re just as important as the mother.
       
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      All's well that ends well. Everyone is doing well except for that crazy bitch that's been married 4 times since me.

      <if only those 4 guys would have called me first!>
       
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      I’m happy you’re in a good place now ♥️
       
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  10. Peteskeet1031

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    it will just make things harder and worse the longer you wait
     
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      I don't know if I fucked up or not. Both my kids are responsible adults and well balanced. That's good. I'm in another marriage that
      we're both happy with, and it's lasted 18 years now. That's good. I guess you can't go back and say what if? I usually have a field day when people try to play the what if game with me. I can come up with some doozies of what if. LOL
       
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  11. freethinker

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    No kids, no problem.
     
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  12. Bitsman

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    Well... What if's can go on forever.... Playing the kids against one another is a common thing... Currently my nephew is married but has a baby momma... His mom... My sister bad mouths said baby momma all the time... I make it a point to address it every time I hear it... Sis is the oldest I'm the yougest... I know for a fact that the boy in question hears what's said because he has asked me... The cool grand-uncle.... Why G-ma doesn't like his mom... hard question to answer... My nephew is rather spineless and won't stand up to this mother... In general.. at least here in the states... The courts feel kids are better off with the mom.... So if dad wants the kids he has to show evidence that mom is unfit... Now I have found that is a rather high bar the clear... Based on several friends that have gone thru this process... In my nephew's case he had to see his son with burises on his backside and upper thighs... These were put there by baby momma's BF... Took a year For him to get his kid outta there... Yeah... If it was not for cooler heads I'd be serving time right now... Another rather common thing is that one parent is or has abused the kids... Either physically or sexually... In most cases this is the mom that makes the allegation about dad... Yes it happens.... But in my experience it's all bullshit... But the court has to take it into consideration... So dad is fucked... It's impossible to prove u did not do something that u are accused of doing because nobody is watching you 24/7/365.... and with the kids with Mom she can condition and manipulate the kids to say what she wants them too.. Basically here in the states... If you got a dick.. u have to prove what you are saying.... If you got a pussy... No proof is needed for any allegation u want to bring up in court.
     
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      Sounds like your lawyer came out the back of a porn mag 1 add lol
       
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      Just careful observation of the HELL some of my buddies have been thru...
       
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  13. cirdellin

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    Depends how far you take it.
    If a couple breaks up just because one of them is vaguely unhappy and thinks that another partner either real or imagined would be a better match, then the children’s interests are not being served.
    If a couple breaks up over physical, drug or alcohol abuse then clearly that is a different story.
    Each situation has to be viewed separately.
    Bottom line though is the choice to have children should be the most somber well thought out decision of one’s life.
     
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  14. conroe4

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    Yep, it's tough toting around a white dick these days.
     
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  15. BeatItUpRight

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    I'm not letting another man be a father to my kid. That's just not ever going to be something that I'm going to be ok with, I'll put on a happy face and sacrifice being happy to make sure my kid is raised the way I want them to be and not with outside influence from mom's bf.
     
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      Again you show that your a racist piece of shit. Don't forget that white people are the biggest and have always been the biggest demographic on welfare. Also this isn't the 60s anymore. Men have the right to hold a women accountable as far as proving their claim that a man fathered her child. My kids have my name, I have the framed DNA test in my room of accomplishments. I signed after I got my proof, that's called being smart. All women lie, all women cheat, doesn't matter the race. You just like to pretend it's only black people because your racist and too stupid to know better. Also maybe you didn't know this but if you're kids reside in your home with you, then you don't pay child support. That's the difference between people like you that feel paying once a month is being a parent. Real parents support their kids everyday not just with money once a month.
       
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      You are forgetting one small word RATE. There are a hell of a lot more white people than there are black people. Black have a much larger percentage of people on welfare than any other race.
      That isn't called being smart. That is called looking for someone to support your children.
      The percentage of black fathers who live with and support their families is a very low percentage compared to other races. You seem to like to make up excuses for your race. Why not get off your ass and make a real difference. Say something to those dead beat dads who refuse to claim their children.
      The rest of us are getting tired of supporting black children.
       
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      That's their business, just like the white deadbeat that fathered my oldest. It's his loss and it's what he will have to answer for later. I personally don't surround myself with people that don't take care of their kids, it's a character flaw imo. If a man cant be loyal to his kids, then he knows not the word. And make no mistake, I never look for anyone to take care of my kids. I don't even do that santa shit in my house. I went out and got that shit! Daddy is santa, not some fat white guy in a ugly red suit. Funny you say it's not smart to get a DNA test 1st, but then you say your tired of supporting other people's kids. If you sign the paper before the test and it's not your kid.....You just told the court that you want to take care of someone else kid lmao. You literally just made my point.
       
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    5. msman
      What santa shit? I feel the same way about people who do not take care of their children. It has got so bad around here that no only do the school have to give children 3 meals a day during school, they have to send a sack lunch home to the parents. The parents get EBT cards but the school still has to send food home to them. Just recently the young children have been issues their own EBT cards. Their parents get EBT cards for them then the children get their own EBT cards.
      Oh yes, I almost forgot to thank you for the compliment.
      Calling me a racist is a compliment.
       
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    6. BeatItUpRight
      Well that's sad, but don't group me with them. I'm proud to say I didn't qualify for a stimulus check. None of my kids qualify for government assistance, and as long as God sees fit to wake me up every morning they will always have a father until that day.
       
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  16. ace's n 8's

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    Staying together just for the kids is plain damned foolish and very selfish.

    It's a fucking excuse, it's an underlying reason for a sense of security for the parent.

    Parents are to be parents and both parents are to be involved as much as possible for the child.

    Best to move on that acquire a relationship/marriage with another...

    Besides that, the child will hit the mother load during Christmas and birthdays with 4 parents.
     
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  17. naztypanty

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    I haven't divorced my wife and she lives in my house with my kid but I've moved out. She and I get along better now and I see my kid whenever I want... and do almost every day. We get along better because we don't live together AND because her doctor has adjusted the THREE mental health meds that she takes daily.
     
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      I'm a firm believer in modern pharmacology...
       
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  18. Ficxa 479

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    I ve thought bout this, n I personally think that Kids Don t have to pay for their parents faults, they got to have a full family, I Don t want my kid to grow up with complete stranger. Espetially when it is a daughter. I Don t even want my grand Kids to have that. Ppl got to be responsible and not to think with their Dick or cunt. Of course there are when one parent is worse than step one.
     
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  19. msman

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    I have two friends who are going through a divorce right now.
    I have known both of them quite a few years.
    For quite a while I didn't know which one to listen to.
    That is until I saw a video of the man walking into their bedroom and grabbing his wife by the hair and dragging her through the house and throwing her out the front door. The look in his eyes was enough to make up my mind.
     
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      I don't know many that have changed for the better by using meth.
       
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