I'm sorry to edit your quote. Every school in the states is under pressure to keep their students from being expelled too frequently. Black people happen to be the loudest and proudest ones fighting for notoriety. Children and adolescents of every color have used their time in school as a training ground. Whether it helps them to later become criminals or entrepreneurs is up to them and the adults teaching them right from wrong.

 

Hundreds of thousands of teenagers cannot be educated and violently interfere with the education of others.

 

To say that they can't be taught nullifies the need for schools. Violently? Maybe so. They do interfere most definitely, some simply can't learn. Children are born with a natural curiosity to interact. If specific students possess this quality to a larger extent than their peers, should they be punished for it? Should an autistic child be shunned because they don't socialize? Can the reason for these 'violent' children's anger or propensity to be a detriment to the safety and education of others be explored?

 

Anyone who wants to explore it should do so in a reform school or a prison, which is where they should go. Why they are the way they are is less important than that they are the way they are. I do not believe they should be allowed to interfere with the education of those who are trying to learn.

 

So you are supporting segregation in schools, racially biased or otherwise?

 

Segregation would not help black students with the ability and the desire to learn. What I do advocate is more discipline, and a greater willingness to permanently expel trouble makers. Also, some of those who should be expelled are white.

 

How can today's schools properly discipline their unruly students?

 

Give them several chances, then permanently expel them.

 

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But they still need an education. Expelling unruly kids from school only leaves unruly kids roaming the streets instead. Perhaps their goal would be to get expelled.

So, what are you going to do with these unruly kids once they get expelled. The old adage "the devil makes work for idle hands", is absolutely true - the kids will find something (usually illegal), to fill that void.

There is no easy solution, but the 'out of sight, out of mind' policy will not work in the long run. Schools and school systems have to take responsibility for discipline. Warnings will do nothing, because the 'hardnosed' kids won't care anyway and may become someone other children look up to.

 

Unruly kids should be sent to Soylent Green collection sites.

 

I would send them to prison and teach them how to split rocks.

I do not want to sound flippant, but I do not think there is much point in trying with them. The students I care about, especially in inner city slum schools, are the ones who are actually trying to learn.

 

What this country needs is Govt run 6 to 12th grade that teaches how to fix shit...like cars and A/C units and all kinds of stuff...

These kids need to hit the work force at 18 making money...

50% of the kids should not be in college that are there now...

Our University System is the biggest most expensive daycare party center in the world.

 

Yeah I agree that schools should stop putting so much emphasis on book-knowledge and bring in technical lessons instead. This may well get kids interested in learning, and once you have their interest, they will tend to absorb book-knowledge about the things they're learning.

Plus, let's face it...some teachers can't teach :neutral:

 

Parents of our Public school kids dont teach kids shit.....we have a two system school...public and private....public school got so bad that 30% of the people started private schools for their kids...

By the time I was 18 I had a handle on....plumping..wiring...contruction foundation lay out, mechanical drawing , book keeping and the internal combustion engine...I did not learn most from school but my dads friends where I worked many jobs from the age of 13...

The kids coming out of public school today can barely read write talk or count money....forget higher math....

 

Public schools used to have two tracks: a college prep track, and an industrial arts track. Which track one was in depended largely on IQ tests taken in the second grade, although other factors mattered too. Then it was decided that this was discriminatory, so everyone was moved to college prep.

As a result we have college graduates with minimum wage jobs, and plumbers who cannot fix leaks.

 

I know someone whose son was excluded from school when he was 14. Because the education system still had a duty to educate him until he was 16 (the leaving age has gone up now to 18, this was a couple of years ago), he had to attend a 'techie school', where he settled in quite quickly. He's now got an apprenticeship with a plumbing firm and is learning a trade properly. It was probably the best thing that happened to him.

A lot of the hard to manage kids are sent to special classes at local colleges and do learn trades, anything from hairdressing to web design. It's important to be able to grab their interest in something other than books, as that kind of learning just isn't for everyone. And at least they learning something that will maybe help them find a job, unlike being locked away and 'splitting rocks', as dl suggested.

 

Yepper...

If you come out of High School knowing how to be a plumber electrician...Heat and Air...run manufacturing machines or fix cars and you start at 30 to 35,000 a year and you can live on that...it is up to the person if they want to go farther up the money latter but they have the start...

more stuff than this but you do get the drift....

 

Thank you.:rose:

These problematic children view their school and its teachers as a force they need to rebel against. Their situations at home should be investigated too. Many act up because they can't retaliate against their parents, that beat them without mercy and refuse to believe their children need to explore the world around them. Trying to ingrain threats of repercussions is going to give these kids a reason to ignore their lessons.