Ruger model 10/22 target/varmit gun
Remington model 700 ADL .270 big game
Remington 1100 16 gauge bird gun/ any
S&W MP15 AR 15...home defense
to name a few

 

Automatic firearms, aren't they what East German border guards used to kill German citizens trying to immigrate? I believe they were also used by Cambodia's military forces to kill Cambodian citizens. The North Korean military uses them to kill Korean citizens I believe. Not to mention the Chinese military, well they did before they started using tanks on their citizens.

All these countries at one time were capitalists. I wonder what happened to those people that made them savages? Oh, I think they first had very strict gun control before they began the killings of their citizens. They knew how to protect their citizens, take those evil guns away. The citizens really felt safe with strict gun control, well didn't they?

 

The only person who is going to want a fully automatic weapon is a criminal and they aren't going to convert one the are going to buy one illegally that was made fully automatic

 

Nope, I would love to own a full auto, I'm not a criminal <have CHL>, and I have a friend that owns a full auto <legally>. I have shot a 90 round drum through it.
It's fun as hell. The problem is you need a sheriff to sign off on it, and they won't these days, and it's cost prohibitive.

 

Bet your sorry you asked that question

 

Ok folks, if you will allow me the room for a moment, CLASS is in session.
Single action and double action refer to what takes place when the trigger is pulled. In a single action, the hammer has to be cocked, or pulling the trigger has no affect what so ever. Hence single action, the trigger only releases the sear), A double action trigger does both functions that is to say that it cocks the hammer (or in some pistols places tension on the striker (firing pin)), AND releases the sear firing the pistol. These terms were developed during the revolver age. The famous colt 45 was also called the Single Action Army. Most people who used these six-shooters carried them with only five chambers loaded and the hammer down on an empty chamber, because a good shake or bump could release the hammer and the revolver would fire. It, like almost all previous revolvers required the user to manually cock the hammer before pulling the trigger to fire the pistol. Later several firearm makers developed revolvers that did both functions, cocking the hammer and releasing the sear. Since these revolvers did both functions by simply pulling the triggers, they were called double action revolvers. Off hand I can't think of any revolvers of those days having anything resembling a safety. Most double action revolvers can be manually cocked then fired in single action mode.

Around the turn of the last Century, many different manufacturers developed semi-automatic pistols. Of late revolvers are called revolvers and semi-autos are called pistols. Most all of the early ones had to have the mechanism cycled to chamber a round and cock the hammer. With a round in the chamber and the hammer cocked, all you had to fire the pistol was pull the trigger. The famous 45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) 1911 that was used by the U.S. military from 1911 until replaced by the 9mm in 1985 was a single action semi-auto despite the term Automatic in its name. This made for a very dangerous situation. The designers added a gadget called a safety that in some manner blocked the trigger or locked the mechanism until the safety was turned off. Actually there were three common ways to carry these pistols. 1. with a loaded magazine but no round in the chamber, you had to cycle the slide to load and cock the pistol (very safe, but slow to get into action in a war zone) 2. With a loaded magazine and a round in the chamber, but with the hammer down, all you had to do is thumb cock the hammer. (faster but safe) 3. loaded magazine, round in the chamber, and the hammer cocked BUT with the safety on. The Army required THREE different and independent safeties on this pistol.

Early in the Twentieth Century several manufactures developed semi-auto pistols that just like the double action revolvers both cocked the hammer and released the sear. The terms single action and double action were carried over to pistols because they still were valid as to the description of the triggers function. Today we have pistols that cannot be manually cocked, these are called double action only (DAO) pistols.

Sanity is relative, You need to learn what you are talking about before spouting off garbage

 

I think the need for any gun except for a hunting rifle to hunt is lunacy. And I am appalled when people talk about assault weapons to be held in anyone's hands except for a service member. Anyone who says they can handle one is full of BS. Those ones have strong burst as far as I know(which means they are hard to control when fired) I think Ive heard even soldiers aren't 100% accurate when firing because of its torque control. What the hell does a regular person think honestly controlling a weapon force could easily be handled?

 

go about 3 minutes in

 

Randy, that looked like a ton of fun.

Richard I'm guessing you've never fired a gun before.

 

You are a real pussy boy aint you.....

try reading the tread .....

 

There's no shame in being ignorant. The shame is in allowing illogical bias and closed-mindedness from keeping one from LEARNING WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

 

The only handgun that I have ever come across that had any kind of a lock on the hammer was a black powder pistol.
You could pull the hammer back about half way and it would lock there and could not be fired by pulling the trigger.
You would have to pull it the rest of the way back and then you could squeeze the trigger and fire it.

 

Oh and that by the way is where the saying " don`t go off half cocked" came from.

 

As far as not being able to hit anything in full auto, look at that video and you will see that the barrel rise in very small. This is because the barrel and the butt stock are in line with each other. In most rifles the barrel is above the shoulder stock and so the rifle is torqued upward or at some angle. Not so much with the AR-15/16 system. There are (now days) many revolvers that have physical locks built in to their mechanism. A key can be used to lock the revolver so that it is incapable of firing. They are about as popular as anchors for cars would be.

Also it MUST be noted that FULL-auto firearms are very limited. Most Americans do not want to pay the $200.00 transfer tax(fee) and go through the hassle of getting approved for their possession. Full auto and Semi auto are totally different beasts. My first rifle was a Remington 550-1 semi-automatic in .22 rimfire. A gift from my grandfather when I was 4 and 1/2 years old. I still own it and still regularly shoot it. It will hold and fire 19 or so .22 short rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger. And there-in is the difference. In a semi-auto you must release and re-pull the trigger for each shot. Yes this can be done quite quickly, but never as fast as full-auto.

For most gun nuts the idea of full auto is like a toy made of gold. It is fun, but so very damned expensive to play with. In the video the guy says he fired something like 700 or 800 rounds. At todays prices even the cheapest stuff costs about 30 cents per round so his ammo cost would have been over $200.00 He fired off that ammo in about 6 min. That would be a $2000.00 per hour hobby. Not counting the barrel that was destroyed.

 

In the military we were taught to control fire in full auto to 2 to 4 round bursts. Yes in the heat of a firefight you might go full auto through an 18 round mag, but not very often. You simply cannot carry that much ammo. Look at the table at the start of the video, can you imaging trying to carry that much ammo very far. In Vietnam I was in the Armored Cavalry so I rode into battle in an Armored Personnel Carrier converted into a fighting platform for 5 troopers. We could carry thousands of rounds and we would top off every ground pounder we met. Even so, we had to not ruin our firearms by sustained fire. The APC had an M-2 .50 cal. main gun, and two .30 cal. top-side mounted M-60's. When we went on dis-mounted patrol, we generally carried about 180 to 200 rounds at most. Combine that with all the other crap the infantry had to carry and I was damned glad to have that APC. Besides we could button-up during the monsoon, unlike the poor mudders.

 

By the way, assault rifle is a specific term and the civilian AR-15 is not an assault rifle. It is a semi-automatic. I wonder if Wal-mart will stop selling ALL semi-auto rifles? The Ruger 10-22 is a semi-auto, and one of the most popular rifles ever made, will they stop selling them. There are a number of semi-auto hunting rifles that do not look anything at all like the evil Black rifle. Further there are lots of semi-auto shotguns. If Wally world is only talking about the evil black rifle then they are talking pure political speak.

 

I think you correct...they are going to stop selling what looks like the assault rifle only.......

 

As we have previously pointed out, Walmart never has sold actual assault rifles (at least in the last 30 years), so IMHO both the article linked by the OP and the action by Walmart are purely political.

From what my local Walmart sporting goods department told me, they will stop selling any semi-auto rifle OR shotgun, with a magazine capacity of 7 or more round.

 

Well, then there goes the Ruger 10-22. So named because it is a .22 cal. that uses a 10 round rotary magazine. If you will pardon a horrendous pun, I think wally world is shooting itself in the foot with such a limp dick idea.

 

eh, I don't shop at Wal-Mart anyway. Boycotted them years ago.