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  1. ace's n 8's

    ace's n 8's Porn Star

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    First and only permit,,so far.:rolleyes:
     
  2. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    WOW then he got real lucky....are there more permits on the way as I have not kept up with any of that news...
     
  3. stumbler

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    And those stocks should be good. First, because as an international upper echelon piece of oil field trash that used to hang here and called himself MusicMachine, pointed out everyone in the world is lying about both the amount of reserves and the potential production. We are scraping the bottom of the barrel. And second because the oil monopoly has controlled both the supply and debate for more than 100 years. No country in the world has taken steps away from that being the dominate source of energy.

    When it was known in 1905 that we could supply 90% of our petroleum needs with bio mass production of hemp alone. That's what Henry Ford thought his cars would run on; ethanol made from hemp. And that's why John D Rockefeller made sure prohibition of alcohol passed.

    But check this. I just got back from Pinedale Wyoming today and they have had three consecutive days of Ozone gas warnings, which means people with respiratory problems and children should stay indoors. People are also reporting nose bleeds and mouth and throat irritation.

    Now, what's an atmospheric gas like Ozone doing trapped on the ground in the wide open, sparsely populated spaces in the middle of Wyoming. Its a combination of the hydrocarbons escaping into the atmosphere from the gas fields, the basin like terrain (which was why it was a wildlife migration route for 10,000 years) and bright sunlight reflecting off snow. It separates and creates Ozone.

    They know all that, and know it gets worse every year, but don't have a clue what to do about that.

    PS MusicMachine was not a roughneck although I suspect he could have been. He was a petroleum engineer who specialized in predicting reserves and also had the benefit, as he put it to hang around long enough on some projects to see how wrong he'd been. In old field terms he knew his shit. He retired because, as he also told me, projections and predictions had become total frauds.
     
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  4. stumbler

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    Oh bullshit Ace. That's the only permit in the same area as the blowout was.

    You remember the blowout don't you Ace. The worst thing that could happen and it was all Obama's fault and he was doing nothing to clean it up.

    You do remember screaming that hysterically don't you?
     
  5. stumbler

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    Randy, Ace, and everyone else .........

    ......... let me drop the antagonistic bullshit for a minute and just tell you this with no hype and no hysteria.

    You should look around you (make it a diameter of 200 miles) and be aware if they are going to do any natural gas drilling, fracking, and production in your area.

    If they are to be on the safe side you might want to consider selling out and moving before anything happens. It will not be long before property that is simply near fracking zones will be devalued.

    And people who draw their water from the aquifer in the east and northeast should actually be worried. If they pollute that aquifer you're screwed.

    And I've been right there when it DID happened.
     
  6. CeeJay1

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    Remember that oil drilling is safe in shallow waters, until ENVIRONMENTALISTS pushed them out so far that they now have to drill that deep because of them.

    Now that its over, how did your hope and changy guy do in saving all that wildlife that needlessly died because he didn't know what to do, so he went off and played more golf. You must be so proud of that POS huh?

    Palin would have made them get that under control pronto as she has experience with oil co's and all that wildlife wouldn't have died. You elected one real piece of work let me tell you.
     
  7. lancedulak

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    This is literally one of the dumbest examples of bizarre doublethink ive ever heard. I seriously wonder how some of you tie your shoes before you go to work in the morning.. assuming you work. Or if you just enjoy lies so much you get off stating them in public and knowing people roll their eyes every time you speak.
     
  8. ace's n 8's

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    This is what I was referring to.
    This is also from the same article.

     
  9. ace's n 8's

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    Could that well been shut down much quicker if it were in shallower waters?
     
  10. stumbler

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    And here's the latest move by the department of Interior with good ol' boy Federal Judge Martin Feldman, who is all but jumping up and down screaming the Interior Department must approve deep water drilling permits for his friends.

    I'm actually getting a kick out of watching this legal maneuvering.:excited:

    Interior appeals oil drilling ruling



     
  11. stumbler

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    Oh how right you are. Thank you. You saved me a lot of time.:)
     
  12. clarise

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    ~giggle~

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    _____Everyone's still here, going around in circles on this non-topic, as though oil still matters. Haven't you heard? GM sold 281 Chevy Volts in February. That's 10 per day. It is now official: welcome to the new era of the coal-powered automobile.
    _____New mantra for the Middle East: Burn, Baby, Burn!
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  13. BigTrobbing

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    A few things I have to say are, first if we cut down on (so called) pollution what about China and the rest that have said they will not. I for one would love to see the enviormentalist go to China and start your little protests, and keep in mind I for one would not want to see America bail you out.

    As for the wildlife that dies and the mess still in the Gulf, ole ears did nothing ne could not get on the course fast enough each and every day, in fact it was Bobby Jindal that called ears daily and asked if he could do what ever he had to to stop the spill from getting on shore and all he head was " we have to do an environmental impact study" What the hell was wrong with them in Washington. While they played the Gulf burned. Like the oil would not do damage.


    I keep hearing from the progressives we have to get off of fossil fuel, OK what do they suggest?? I know wind mills wait solar yea OK How about nuke power how about drilling for our OWN oil tell OPEC to stick it up their asses and we will drill and use our own resources. We have more ten enough natural gas (if we can drill for it) we have more then enough coal.

    And while we are using that let the American people come up with an alternative, we can do that. It is just a shame we have so many in this country that put up road blocks.

    We were pushed out to deep water drilling because we were not allowed to drill on or closer to the shore.

    And the last thing if obama really wanted America to stand up on her own he would not be blocking as much as he is. He has already stated that with his energy plan energy prices would necessarily sky rocket. That is not someone that is working for America.:-E:-E:-E
     
  14. hotjohn4321

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    Greed will win

    Greed will always win over any other consideration. Just read the comments here and honestly think about what is really being said. There has always been an economically justified reason to pollute, destroy and even kill people. When all is said the only conclusion I can come to, the human race sucks and is really very ignorant.
    I also have been reading about how the oil companies have been using diesel tainted material in the fracturing when drilling for gas. This has cause pollution of the ground water. Then there is the GM plants that are now spreading around the world. We will destroy ourselves because of our greed for wealth and power.
     
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  15. clarise

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    You my, friend, obviously have trouble tying your own shoes in the morning.;)
     
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    And this ninny is so busy spewing out ad hominem attacks that he never gets around to explaining why it is so absurd to suggest that shallow water rigs are safer than deep water rigs.

    And all his ninny friends have apparently run off to Wikipedia to come up with a bunch of new graphs that will show everyone why coal powered cars are going to save the planet and will do so in a new era absent of greed, because big government is running the car companies under the direction of China now, or some such thing.

    This silly thread is more than a year old, and still active, as though oil matters. Meanwhile, Terra Power is capitalized with billions and doesn't even have the means to apply for permission to build its new fission plant here. Oil! Fuck oil!

    What a bunch of ninnies. What a pathetic little mutual admiration society, clinging parasitically to the rectal lining of a filthy little porn site. Sheesh. Ninnies, all.
     
  17. stumbler

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    I'll do that for you. Shallow water rigs are not necessarily safer than deep water rigs. Any well will blow out exactly like the Deep Water Horizon did if the Company were as careless as the BP hands are.

    But that has nothing to do with why we're drilling in deep water. The reason we're drilling deep water is because there is oil and gas that deep and billions and billions to be made. Which is happening right now.

    Had drilling off our east and west coast not been banned after repeated blowouts and spills, it would have been drilled up 20 years ago and they'd still be drilling right where they are.

    And we have had lots of blow outs and environmental disasters on shallow water rigs which is what got drilling banned off the coast of California.

    I don't think so. In fact that sounds quite insane to me. Why on earth would we convert coal to fuel when we've already got more methane gas than we can produce right now.

    Vehicles are going to be powered by something other than fossil fuels relatively soon because oil is running out and climate change is happening.

    And I'm not so sure that's a bad thing after I googled Terra Power and found out they are talking about mini nuclear plants.

    Which could be a really good idea but from what I just read is a decade behind other technologies.

    *not_secure_link*theenergycollectiv...r’s-travelling-wave-reactor-–-why-not-use-ifr

    But I have to admit its an interesting concept although I wonder how safe they would really be given human beings propensity for fucking up.

    Wow, now that is an amazingly contradictory concluding statement considering your beginning statement decries an ad hominem fallacy.
     
  18. stumbler

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    Which just begs the question of course of if you feel that way what are you doing here?
     
  19. Ed Itor

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    The problem with electric cars is that they currently are really for city driving & warm weather areas only.
    I Canada you'd come out of the movies to a dead car and after you've gone the max distance and you need to recharge where do you do that? New Condums up here will not allow owners to plug in their electric cars soo ...
    Until they improve mileage & recharging times they will be the darlings of Greens only.

    Now if you want a hybrid Hyundai/Kia's are the best to-date.
     
  20. clarise

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    I'm just a ninny. Passing through. Whilst perusing a filthy porn site.


    I am relieved that Terra Power has no way to apply for permission to build a plant here. Now that you have vetted it for us. Why go to the expense of maintaining a process, when their engineering concepts do not pass your muster. Yes. A relief, indeed.

    Drilling technology has improved over the past few decades. Thirty years ago, we did not have the ability to drill where we are drilling now, irrespective of the safety issues. Maybe, just maybe, our improvements in technology would make shallow drilling much safer, for us and the environment, than was possible twenty years ago. But we may never know, because companies are forbidden to drill shallow. And maybe, just maybe, a well in 100 feet of water would not have taken six months to cap if it at had blown. But we will never know that, either. Which is a profound relief, because drilling and oil and so forth are just insane, when we can power our 100 million cars with coal now, instead of gasoline. Yes, another relief, indeed.

    The Volt is a coal powered car, because most of the power that is generated in the 48 contiguous states (that is, the power that we do not purchase from elsewhere), is produced by coal. Natural gas is nice, too. But the Volt is a coal powered car. For the most part. Percentage-wise. I am sure a little teensy bit of its power consumption is solar or wind driven, too. Spiffy.