Hes a treasonous war criminal...he should be demonized.

 

Enough reason to send your kids off to die? maybe for you...not me...

 

I went to Iraq and ive seen for myself the shit thats gone on over there the good and the bad and i went because i was sent its my job wether i believe it or not i will go where i am ordered you want to believe all the conspiricy theory crap that you keep blasting on about good for you its your choice

 

There are training areas over here in the uk that we are not allowed to dig in as there is mustard gas shells from ww1

 

It isnt a conspiracy theory...Iraq would not have happened with out 911..If you want to go kill people and risk your life for bullshit billionaire lies and be happy about it more power to ya.

 

For someone who's not trying to rehabilitate GW's reputation, you put a lot of work into it. Nice try, but no cigar.

If Saddam had stored his chemical weapons in nice dry secret bunkers, you might have a point. He could always go back and get them, with a reasonable expectation they might work. That would qualify as "hidden." Suppose the world knew that Iraq had 5000 nerve gas shell buried in a muddy field. How much support for an invasion would that bring?

When you bury any kind of munition in the ground with no protection, you haven't hidden it, you've disposed of it. There never was a threat these weapons could be used again. Parading them as justification of the invasion, and claim GW's was right is just plain silly. Saddam could never have claimed to be "top dog" as long as the Iranians were across the river.
Saddam had enough problems being top dog in Iraq. He had too many internal threats to worry about claiming the title. Taking Saddam out of power and leaving a helpless fractured Iraq in it's place has made Iran the top dog.

The US did not win this war. They don't give Superbowl rings to the team that was ahead at halftime.

 

We won we got out ticket into Syria and Iran...

 

And the beat goes on boom ba ba boom ha ha ...

 

How many of you jokers are going to be on board when they tell you were going into Iran and/or Syria?

 

I hear Assad hid some chem weapons in the mud...this calls for a decade long war doesnt it?

 

Not entirely true weapons can be buried and used again mines being the perfect example they can be carefully removed and replanted as what they do in afghanistan.
Chemical weapons out there would be treated exactly the same theyd pay them $10 to go and dig it up if they died doing it they wouldn care, thats the way they are out there and as i said before the wmd's where not the reason for going to war

 

9/11 only made it happen faster with the amount of sanctions he broke it would of happened sooner or later

 

You make do with what you have.

Saddam buried those shells because the were too dangerous to store and he had no more use for them. The fact they were still withing the geographical boundaries of Iraq was the only thing wich made them a threat, in any sense of the word. The shells could not be used as artillery weapons, so were no threat to any neighboring country.

 

But could have been put in a scud warhead especially the aircraft mounted weapons
Necessity the mother if all inventions

 

The Invasion of Iraq was not justified by what Saddam might do in a Mad Max scenario.

 

Funny how the only time a right winger listens to the UN is when it's too justify war. Otherwise, they only talk about abolishing it...

 

That was just a hypothetical scienario and may or may not of happened but like i said what about all the other sanctions he broke, that was justification to end the cease fire
It was not another war just a different campaign in one that already existed

 

We had more control over Saddam and Iraq before the invasion. The war lost all of that and now all we have is an inadequate response with no end in sight. Isis will eventually collapse under its own weight and be replaced by more chaos.
All these feeble attempts to justify the invasion only make it more likely to be tried again, hoping to get it right, this time. That was the real reason for the last invasion.

 

Exactly more dead kids and arms and legs blown the fuck off ...then we can go to the beach on the last weekend in May and have a celebration about it...

 

Don't you guys read my post before you rant on about who I am or what I stand for???

As I said in my post #55;
"First, I'm not trying to rehabilitate GWB's reputation. I'm not a republican and I didn't vote for him. The man is a politician and none of those guys can be trusted to tell the truth. They tell us what they think we need to know so they can do what they want."

Does that sound like I'm trying to rehabilitate Bush???

We're not talking about what was known after the war. We are talking about what was known prior to the invasion and what reasons were used to justify the attack. Just based on the FACT that Saddam used chem WMD on Iran prior to their war with us, and the fact that he agreed to destroy the chem weaons he still had.... but later refused to let the UM inspection teams verify that he had indeed destroyed them. I'd say that we had good reason to believe he still had chem bombs. That's so easy to understand I don't know why you keep brining up the bombs we later found buried in mud.

Not that I agree with your opinion or conclusion but.... Again, you're talking about information obtained after the war. Information that could not have influenced our decision to go to war.

Here is what a Gulf War Vet know about those chem bombs you think were unusable.....

You forget that Saddam beat Iran in the Iranian vs Iraqi war. He used WMD on the Iranians and forced them to accept a ceasefire.. Not only did Saddam beat Iran but he beat Kuwait and poised his troops to invade Saudi Arabia so he could take over their oil wells.. Had Saddam been allowed to thumb his nose at the US, he would have claimed that he defied us and won. That would have allowed him to emerge as the most powerful man in the middle east.

Here is a question for you BZ.... where do you get your information? Opinions are not facts.

HD