Dancing is a great form of exercise . . . And congrats on your girlfriend! :rose:

 

Well, Goering would make more sense, that's true...apparently he had a little cross-dressing thing going on, liked to wear silk kimonos and stuff...British press at the time called him "Goering the Geisha"...

If the TV miniseries from several years ago "Nuremburg" is correct, then when they brought him into custody, his toenails were painted bright red!

but before you try to get on my case, xnxxme, only the toenails bit came from TV...the other things I said came out of history books...

bet that's a detail they don't mention on the white power websites, eh?

 

My company actually provides me with a place to exercise and the time to do it.

 

Very nice. But, according to Shake, your company is being Big Brother.

 

You'll have to explain what the C.H.I.P. program is. And what do doctors helping poor people have to do with punishing people who don't want to go to the gym?

-S-

 

nice one there, Shake! I couldn't agree more!

 

Making it a choice is great. Making it mandatory is not. His company offers it to those who wish to utilize it. Ask him how he'd feel if his company said 'If you don't use the gym 4 times a week, you have to pay $25 extra dollars a week that will be deducted from your paycheck automatically to go towards our higher healthcare premiums'. I imagine you'd hear a different story.

Don't twist my words. I go to great lengths to make my points very clear.

-S-

 

sounds like xnxxme and Katie Girl would make a good match...all that remains to be seen is if they have the same prejudices...

Katie, if you also believe that Jews control 95% of the media and if fat girls are a personal affront to your sensibilities, please PM xnxxme immediately!

I can almost hear the wedding bells ringing!

 

Could you please show where I stated that is should be mandatory? Could you please show where I stated that eating at McDonald's or Snicker's bars should come with negative reprocussions?

You're creating a illogical spins. You're stating that the government shouldn't invest in its citizens physical and mental well being, although there's evidence through programs such as C.H.I.P. that the government already does so. If you're against the government investing in its citizens, you must explain your reasons against programs such as C.H.I.P., Medicaid, Social Security, high education assistance, etc. Otherwise, how can you be for some government programs to help its citizens and against others than provide the same outcome?

 

fat people are just too short for their weight!

 

When you call me names, I feel like I've being embraced by the masses! Oh, I'm tearing up!

I'm not anti-obesity and do not have issues with people who are overweight. Could you please read my postings in this thread? I don't know what percent of the media is controlled by Jews, because (quite frankly) I don't care about the media, except how if effects the news. I don't care about Britney Spears. And, I don't care who Justin Timberlake is dating.

Again, I'm definitely not insensitive to people with weight issues.

And, thank you for the flaming. I do so feel a part of the family.

 

All of you work under some false assumptions because you aren't in the position of having to use some of these GREAT FREE benefits I govt provides us.
Example, Medicare D a HUGE fraud:
I paid 12 dollars for 4 bottles of insulin under the plan by the manufacturer for low income.
The list price was $75 per bottle. The list price is now over $100 per bottle. Manufacturing costs did not go up that much. Insulin is made by bacteria that do not get paid.

Now with Medicare part D I pay $24 for 4 bottles and my Part D is billed $400 for them, which counts toward the point of where I have to pay premiums but get ZERO coverage for drugs until I have again paid over $3600 out of my own pocket which I don't have.

Now Insulin is not a luxury, I either use it or I get all kinds of crap like going blind, kidney failure, or foot bone disintegration like my ex has. I am sure you can see the FRAUD in the above paragraph. "Medicare is going to HELP you with your drug costs. Yes it costs me $96 per month all the time and goes up every year. and Medicare part D has DOUBLED my cost of insulin and then about Sept 15, I will NO coverage because I have hit the "Donut Hole" of NO coverage, but they still get my premiums.

Oh yes, that is in addition to the medicare premium on every paycheck I have earned since about 1980.

 

Okay, you're starting to become more trouble than your worth. You did not say it should be mandatory. That wasn't the point I was making. Having the government make it mandatory is what I am arguing against. It goes back to your "tax breaks for the healthy" initiative, which is what started this whole thing off. You want to reward healthy people.

And no where did I say that government shouldn't seek to better the lives of it's citizens. It's the government forcing their idea of a healthier lifestyle that I object to.

And like I said, I don't know what C.H.I.P. is. I have no problem with government assistance. I do have a problem with government control. I want the government as far removed from my life as possible. I don't pay them taxes for them to tell me what to do and control my life.

If you tax people more heavily because they are unhealthy and are more of a drain on government resources, then in a sense, you're taxing people who eat too much McDonald's. It's an example of how it could be done, not how it is done now. McD's is some of the most unhealthy food you can put in to your body. You are advocating punishing people who lead unhealthy lives. One of the ways that that might be done is by eating too much fast food and junk food. I'm stating that eating too much crap is every American's inalienable right.

If you want to get people to be healthier, by all means, educate away. I'm not suggesting that I want everyone to be fat, only that if that's the lifestyle they choose, it's none of my business and it's certainly not Uncle Sam's. But what you want is a step beyond education. A big step. You want government enforcement of a healthy lifestyle.

-S-

 

celebrity gossip is hardly the only aspect of life which the media concerns itself with, dear..

 

Wow. Just reading your post makes my head hurt. Thanks for the enlightenment. I've filed that away.

 

and I don't believe I called you any names, either...the point that Shake is making is that it sets a dangerous precedent for the government to involve itself to such an extent in people's private lives that it rewards what is seen as "good" behavior, i.e. eating and living healthy.., through tax incentives or what have you...

another good example would be the religious right meddling into what is taught in our schools...when this country was established, the Founding Fathers were very clear about which issues the government should keep it's nose out of...

 

This was my original quote (which I still stand behind):

This may be a bit off topic (a.k.a., flaming one another ), but it would be wonderful if the American government offered tax incentives for and more companies offered employees "perk" membership to fitness clubs. People who exercise are healthier, happier, and miss less work . . . And all this leads to feeling sexier, which leads us down the garden path of lust (my favorite of all the Seven Deadly Sins).

I did not state that the government should reward "good" behavior but rather offer tax incentives for fitness club memberships, because people who exercise are (well, you can read it) . . .

 

Again, I refer to my original post (which, again, I stand behind):

This may be a bit off topic (a.k.a., flaming one another ), but it would be wonderful if the American government offered tax incentives for and more companies offered employees "perk" membership to fitness clubs. People who exercise are healthier, happier, and miss less work . . . And all this leads to feeling sexier, which leads us down the garden path of lust (my favorite of all the Seven Deadly Sins).

 

i should loose some weight

 

and also, the REASON that organic food is more expensive is because the preparation of organic food is more labor-intensive...growing produce without the use of chemical pesticides is not so easy and the natural ones don't work as well..

Furthermore the demand drives the market...people who are educated enough to look into the whole "healthy living" issue and make a stand one way or the other about it are also likely, because of being more educated, to be making more money...hence, willing and able to shell out five bucks for a loaf of bread made from 27 different grains!

I don't bother to eat healthy just because most of that food tends to taste like shit! give me Wonder Bread and processed cheese any day!